FF cameras with a meh lens is not worth the premium. It's not in the "plastic fantastic" category at all. On topic - nice lens but no real improvements from EF 35 2.0 IS, which is great street/general use glass even wide open. It is completely irrelevant when discussing modern day designs. Thé 50 f1,8 Sony is terribly slow making you nervous while waiting .....Forget it. ...or how about stabilizing the sensor in the camera so you don't have to buy the stabilization mechanism over and over again in every lens you buy... IQ isn't any better than the 2012 EF 35mm F2 IS, which is being excellent, and cheaper, too. The IMX661 is a new 127.68MP ‘large format’ sensor from Sony that features a global shutter. Watch the exhilarating 'Right Up Our Alley' video featuring FPV footage of Bryant Lake Bowl & Theater in Minneapolis, Minnesota. What keeps me on the fence with Nikon Z system is that some of their lenses may not be quite as good as they should be, e.g. the distance from the front of the lens to the subject – of 7cm. Jump into our sample gallery to see its optical quality yourself. But I've never heard EF lenses failing or performing badly because of "plasticky" I myself have used some of these plasticky lenses with great satisfaction. For instance, Ben Long writes, "A true macro lens shoots 1:1". Looks like it fell out of a cereal box. BTW "Jennifer Government" is a good book on advanced marketing...)I do like Canon's trend to put 0.5x macro ability in assorted non-macro lenses...A shame it was STM not Nano-USM though... strange. The slightest drop of this lens renders it inoperable and in need of being sent in for another sub-par and expensive repair and now it has broken again and is super slow to focus.... > The main repair guy at a very reputable local camera store here in L.A. told me this is the Canon product with the most repair requests....In other words, it's built poorly, Canon knows it, but won't do anything about it. I believe that the histogram difference is simply caused by uncorrected vignetting. and the RF 24-105 F4 is just a better as EF contrepart. Vecnos’ IQUISPIN app has received an update that makes it easier to browse through and share their 360-degree photos and videos, regardless of what camera they were shot with. I haven't noticed that my ex Sigma 35mm f1.4 Art is any sharper than RF 35mm at f1.8. With some well-judged sharpening and other work in post you will still get very sharp-looking images even at max aperture. If so could we have some samples with the Fine Detail Picture Style and DLO enabled (I struggle to see why owners wouldn't use both, unless shooting video).I get 5.5 stops on my IBIS camera, 5 stops is pretty amazing for OIS only! Canon shines at close-up, Sony at walkaround and wide open. @MILC man, My gear list is tongue in cheek, just for laughs, for anyone who finds humor in such lists. It's fun to use on both my R and RP. In the 5D4, for example, it completely destroys the performance...I don't think there's an STM lens that couldn't be converted to a Nano-USM motor of some size or another. The outer barrel’s matte gray finish mirrors that of the EOS R body, as does the silvery rear of the inner lens barrel with the host cameras throat. When you can't view an image large enough to make it look like a proper macro shot, then it's not a macro. Something else I've noticed is that lenses with smoother bokeh almost seem to look faster than their apertures indicate. The Macro-Elmar-M is intended to be used with the Macro-Adapter-M. They also barely protrude from the casing, which makes it difficult to inadvertently knock them out of place. Not you. In 2019, the fact is that high DR, and lens corrections can allow for vignetting in lenses, since it is of less priority, then before when DR was more limited and corrective software more primitive. I for one won’t be buying it to take pictures of rulers. If you're looking for a high-quality camera, you don't need to spend a ton of cash, nor do you need to buy the latest and greatest new product on the market. (It is strange that STM, usually cited as very quiet, is a negative for noise here though...). Here's why you might be better off with a new F1.8 prime instead. @Jac, I don't think so. It's a very solid multi purpose lens for a good price and size. Canon isn’t the first to mass-produce such a system, but it is a pioneer of this new methodology, and its work is of much interest because this emerging class of cameras are, in the main, far more expensive than their traditional competitor, the interchangeable-lens compact system camera. ), but at a similar price as the current RF, if they had removed the IS (as apparently IBIS is planned anyway) and macro specs. When Canon and Nikon are talking about the greater possibilities regarding lens design allowed by their new mounts, they are primarily comparing them to their own DSLR mounts, not Sony's E mount. Do all the "R" cameras do real-time DLO? Not everyone wants their lenses supersized. What keeps me on the fence with Nikon Z system is that some of their lenses may not be quite as good as they should be, e.g. If it can't, it is not a macro lens. It has something for everybody. Hardly. And you still haven’t answered. i think so; that worked for the Fuji manual focus video zooms, that Fuji released for e-mount a year before they released it in their own native x-mount. 500px offers Pro members a new web-building tool for creating portfolio sites to show off their work beyond the 500px community. Simple as that. Most older double gauss 50s used to go from more or less hazy to not hazy at f2.8, at least in the centre, that's the case of the STM. @MILC man Tell us again why Sony's FE 35/1.8 Macro is such a good lens. If you can’t state some positive things about any of the camera manufacturers’ systems than you can’t be trusted regarding anything you say, even if you may be right about something I would always double check another source. The Canon RF 35mm f/1.8 STM IS macro was one of the first RF-mount lenses released back in 2018. Mmm...And the Nikon 35mm 1.8 Z is even more expensive, partly because, well, Canon is awesomely good at making cheap and cheerful lenses, but also because it's just better corrected in ways a comparison such as the one above won't highlight well. The ROI is better on me shooting, than retouching. There is the mount interface that restricts that, not to mention the provisions required for the electronic communications, of the element needs to change position all the mechanisms required take space. The price of a camera is based entirely on what the manufacturer thinks people will pay for it. It was basically the same lens from back in the 80's and Canon FD days where it was a 1:2 macro. is it really worth posting out here for that. A report from Mac Rumors says Apple has confirmed to the publication that its pro-oriented all-in-one computer lineup will be discontinued. The full E-mount specifications, including electronic communication protocols, are only available after applying and getting Sony's approval. For that I often go very wide anyway - which is why the much anticipated 14-30 Z looks a bit like a disappointment with its crappy corners at UWA - or much longer. I never said the lens has no faults, as I didn’t talk about IQ or sharpness or AF or anything like that. The Zeiss Batis 40mm does 1:3 but Zeiss are not daft enough to call it a macro because it isn't one. Comes down to the three design points on lenses:1) size2) cost3) quality. PS .. why does a system absolutely need OEM extension tubes when third party are readily available? It started to happen in the film days that manufacturers like Tamron brought out a zoom lens that would do 1:3 they stuck the word macro on it. In fact, if you're lens doesn't give you enough vignetting, you can easily add it in post through an app like Lightroom. @Lonetree1 "I'd rather have a 150mm lens that shoots at 4 inches than a 35mm lens that can shoot at 1 inch (like the Olympus can) but I don't know if a macro lens like that exists yet.". 'Macro lenses have always been identified in the past as being "macro" for having "closer than normal" MFD's and usually somewhere around 1:3 to 1:1 in magnification.'. Don't make up nonsense and don't accuse me of things I've never said. Use this formula: ((dpr score) - 77) * 7, and then you get a better scaled score. I think all modern lenses shouldn't have that strong CA whether its a pro lens or not. I am fully aware of the short comings of that lens.". If PetaPixel says Nikon sucks, people repeat it and no one questions the motive behind the article because we are indoctrinated to believe that journalism is objective, but that ship has sailed. At WO, the Nikkor S 35 is stronger in the center and most of the frame, but weaker in the corners. The camera lens designers. (From Canon lens literature) Compact, lightweight and easy to carry, the Canon RF 35mm F1.8 Macro IS STM lens offers amazing versatility in a wide-angle macro lens. Insta360 today launched GO 2, its new tiny action camera. I simply showed a cross the industry examples and even cross era examples that Macro lenses as defined by the industry are anywhere usually from 1:3 to 1:1. you do realize that lens barrel material is extremely thin, right? Is Canon trying to fool us? ", https://www.sonyrumors.co/confirmed-sony-fe-35mm-f-1-8-lens-to-be-announced-next-sel35f18f/. To do otherwise is foolish pricing - why should a manufacturer leave money on the table? This one is a good example of "you get what you pay for". @Verland, yeah I like the look of most of the new lenses compared to their older counterparts. The focusing system isn’t the most discreet but it is fast, and it works very well during video shooting. that nonsense reminds of the false claims that you made just a few days ago... here is one of many examples of that: @lawny13 - " I was very worried that RF lenses would also exhibit focus shift... Wrong. Is there any noticeable focus shift I the resulting image? Vignetting is a tried and true tool of composition. @dansclic: all lenses sharp across the frame at middle apertures? Those who want it pin sharp at f/1.8 would prefer it to weigh 1000g. Barney, the atmospheric haze would affect the f/5.6 shot just as much as the f/1.8 shot, don't you think? Jacs: this isnt a poster child - its an entry level lense in this system.The poster quality lenses offer f2.0 on a zoom or 50mm of superb quality beyond what was available. My point here is that if you really can’t list any positives as requested this will simply be the last commutation I make to you. If one have any doubts about it, he can just go trough your comments history! The latter is perhaps a bit better in corners. Comparison Review: Can VueScan or SilverFast archive your film better? I'm finding it extremely useful. @vscd - it's clear that you and lawny13 want to hide the facts about this rf35/1.8. It may actually help to enhance some aspects of IQ at wide apertures as it's like closing the aperture down, at least in one axis. The first major update to Capture One 21 is available now. No they have not. I'd rather have a 150mm lens that shoots at 4 inches than a 35mm lens that can shoot at 1 inch (like the Olympus can) but I don't know if a macro lens like that exists yet. and yes of course pricing of Nikon Z 35/1.8 is totally ludicrous. Out of curiosity, do you track the number of impressions by first page and conclusion vs middle pages? If you really need 1:1, which almost no one ever does, just get the tube. Would you please turn off IBIS, the next time you test a Panasonic or Sony :-). You do realize that it is fairly easy to find this for every single manufacture right? What really bugs me about the Nikon 35 Z is the sometimes unforgivably nervous bokeh at least at distance, whereas the Canon, imperfections as it may have with its correctable slight barrel distortion, softness wide open and chromatic aberrations (which the Nikon apparently also shares) shows some super lovely bokeh which really also shines at its close focusing and moderate macro ability. @MILCman: why do you come into all of these discussion threads about non-Sony equipment just to criticize? everyone sees that: @Thoughts R Us - "@T3: Rainerson was simply pointing out the activity of Sony trolls on this forum...like you! Olympus's 35mm focuses within 1 inch or somewhat closer. @Carol T, yes I pay a Pro Retoucher to do scut-work like clipping-paths, on my JPEGs.